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Neverwhere

Thalia: Infos zu Autor, Inhalt und Bewertungen ❤ Jetzt»Neverwhere«nach Hause oder Ihre Filiale vor Ort bestellen! Inhaltsangabe zu "Neverwhere". Richard Mayhew is an unassuming young businessman living in London, with a dull job and a pretty but shrewish fiancee. NEVERWHERE is the stunningly original and brilliant first novel from storytelling genius Neil Gaiman, with illustrations by Children's Laureate Chris Riddell.

Neverwhere Inhaltsverzeichnis

Niemalsland ist das Buch zur Miniserie Neverwhere von Neil Gaiman. Die Handlung und die Figuren wurden aus der Serie übernommen. Die Romanform erlaubte es Gaiman allerdings, einzelne Erzählstränge genauer auszuarbeiten und einige Zugeständnisse. Neverwhere is the stunningly original first novel from Neil Gaiman, the bestselling and prizewinning author of The Ocean at the End of the Lane and American. Niemalsland ist das Buch zur Miniserie Neverwhere von Neil Gaiman. Die Handlung und die Figuren wurden aus der Serie übernommen. Die Romanform. NeverWhere: Unter den Straßen Londons gibt es in verlassenen U-Bahnhöfen und Geisterzügen, Katakomben und Kanälen eine bizarre Welt zwischen. Thalia: Infos zu Autor, Inhalt und Bewertungen ❤ Jetzt»Neverwhere«nach Hause oder Ihre Filiale vor Ort bestellen! Thalia: Infos zu Autor, Inhalt und Bewertungen ❤ Jetzt»Neverwhere. Illustrated Edition«nach Hause oder Ihre Filiale vor Ort bestellen! Inhaltsangabe zu "Neverwhere". Richard Mayhew is an unassuming young businessman living in London, with a dull job and a pretty but shrewish fiancee.

Neverwhere

NeverWhere: Unter den Straßen Londons gibt es in verlassenen U-Bahnhöfen und Geisterzügen, Katakomben und Kanälen eine bizarre Welt zwischen. Inhaltsangabe zu "Neverwhere". Richard Mayhew is an unassuming young businessman living in London, with a dull job and a pretty but shrewish fiancee. Niemalsland ist das Buch zur Miniserie Neverwhere von Neil Gaiman. Die Handlung und die Figuren wurden aus der Serie übernommen. Die Romanform erlaubte es Gaiman allerdings, einzelne Erzählstränge genauer auszuarbeiten und einige Zugeständnisse.

Are you serious?? View all 43 comments. May 18, Kat Kennedy rated it liked it Shelves: the-great-shelf-of-meh , kat-s-book-reviews.

I first started reading this book and honestly wanted to just chuck it in the bin. I said very mean things about the protagonist under my breath.

Surely, I said, a Protagonist means that they are pro and totally into furthering the story. Surely, Protagonist is the similar to Proactive and Productive.

I was wrong. The word Protagonist, in its basic form is not similar to proactive. It simply, from the Greek plays, means the principle character or the first speaking character.

However, I maintain th I first started reading this book and honestly wanted to just chuck it in the bin.

However, I maintain that the kind of protagonist that most people want to read about is one that actually bloody does something!

In many senses it utterly manages to be magical and creative and fun. It fails, however, to be clever. There are so many lines in this book intending to be dry wit and just come off dry stupid.

Allow an example: There are four simple ways for the observant to tell Mr Coup and Mr Vandemar apart: first, Mr Vandemar is two and a half heads taller than Mr Croup; second, Mr Croup has eyes of a faded, china blue while Mr Vandemar's eyes are brown; third, while Mr Vandemar fashioned the rings he wears on his right hand out of the skulls of four ravens, Mr Croup has no obvious jewellery; fourth, Mr Croup likes words, while Mr Vandemar is always hungry.

Also, they look nothing at all alike. I see what you did there! If he'd left out these lame little lines I think I probably would have enjoyed this novel a whole lot more.

Just about every other character in this story is awesome except for the protagonist. Give me a story about Marquis de Carabas and I will read it in a second.

Honestly, fantastic character right there. Tell me I have to read another whiny missive about Richard Mayhew and I will likely stick hot pokers into my eyes first.

I get it. I really do. It's a journey. The total character growth comes to equal someone who doesn't just sit idly by and let people take stuff from him.

Let me give you an example. He met a girl who was unconscious in the streets and bleeding to death. He takes her home. This causes his fiancee to break up with him.

He then goes through a lengthy process to get the girl back where she came from. Once he does this he then loses his job, his apartment and all his money.

He then goes to find the girl for a an explanation and b help. Without her help he will probably die as another side effect of having met her is that he has two psychopathic killers on his tail.

She simply apologizes and walks away, abandoning him. So what does he do? Does he chase her down and gently remind her that she owes him a favor?

Does he barter and trade what he can, whilst trying to lure the killers into a trap so that he can some how defend himself? Richard leaned against a wall, and listened to their footsteps, echoing away, and to the rush of the water running past on its way to the pumping station of East London, and the sewage works.

And then, to his surprise, for the first time since his father died, alone in the dark, Richard Mayhew began to cry.

He decides to stay there and die. That's right, folks. He just stays there waiting to die. Ya know, I don't accept this crap from a female character - nor do I accept it from a man.

How the hell am I suppose to sympathize with someone who so blithely lets everything he has slip through his fingers because he can't speak up and demand explanations or some kind of help?

This level of pitiful doesn't help the audience empathize - it makes them think your protagonist is an idiot. The plot is pretty good - despite everything being painfully obvious and predictable at the end.

The world building is fantastic. It's probably the best thing about this book. It's really creative and fascinating and interesting. Over all, it was an alright read.

It wasn't great. I labored through until the last half where it began to pick up and markedly improve. Thus only three stars. Had the first half been more like the last half then it would have earned four.

Nov 14, Kevin Ansbro rated it liked it Shelves: recommended-by-matthew-quann , urban-fantasy , young-adult , contemporary-fantasy , adult-lite , escapism , awesome-premise , gentle-humour , human-imagery , quintessentially-english.

Despite my misgivings, I dived in and was immediately beguiled — th. Despite my misgivings, I dived in and was immediately beguiled — the story returning me to a childhood of Alice in Wonderland and The Wizard of Oz as was Gaiman's intent.

But Richard, though annoying, is generous of spirit and one day skips an important business dinner to aid a blood-and-mud-caked girl who collapses at his feet on a London pavement.

He is soon drawn into a lamplit, subterranean world of sewer-dwellers, rat-munchers and pantomime villains. I enjoyed this more than I did The Ocean at the End of the Lane ; it had a bit more grit and spite about it - even a swear word or two and an instance of bosom fondling Neil Gaiman, you naughty schoolboy!

But there is a childlike simplicity to his writing, and I can't escape the feeling that it's all a bit too YA for me.

Neil strikes me as one of those men who has bypassed puberty on the way to adulthood. His undoubted secret superpowers are his wonderfully fertile imagination and an unsurpassed ability to connect with his inner child.

The book is wonderfully Dickensian in parts and Gaiman elicited a lot of knowing nods and smiles from me with his in-jokes and observations of the London Underground.

Neverwhere is as adult- lite as I expected it to be, but it was also a fantastical, wonderfully escapist read. I enjoyed it more than I thought I would, but doubt I'll read any more of his.

Thank you, Matthew. View all comments. Jun 17, Lyn rated it liked it. Upon beginning a review of Neverwhere by Neil Gaiman my first thoughts were to write that even a bad Gaiman novel was better than most other authors best work.

This was entertaining and the literary ground is ripe for more Neverwhere adventures if he ever decided to return, and he has hinted that he may.

Croup and Vandemar are two of his best characters. For Gaiman fans, but would not be the best to begin a tour of his impressive canon.

View all 13 comments. Well, the answer for me is yes. But like, if your answer is no Read a damn Neil Gaiman book, you cretin.

Allow yourself that happiness. How do you write a first novel like this? It is beautiful, it is creative, it is magical, it has lovely prose. The world is clear and well-constructed.

It is action-packed and well-characterized seriously, all the characters are so lovable. It is, in short, an on-paper perfect book.

Paper pun intended. Directly stealing my own description of another Neil Gaiman book - Coraline - only semi-intended.

Bottom line: Is Neil Gaiman well on his way to being on my favorite authors list?? Stay tuned!! But yes. He is. View all 21 comments.

The first half was so slow, and I was even thinking about DNFing which was horrifying to me, this is Neil Gaiman's book we're talking about!

Plus I also found it was too easy to guess who the bad guys really were. These two things were the main drawbacks to the book for me.

But this book has some of the best characters ever. Mr Croup and Mr Vandemar are just the best partners in crime ever!

I just need a book on the two of them. And Marquis de Carabas was another great character. Fantastic, fant The first half was so slow, and I was even thinking about DNFing which was horrifying to me, this is Neil Gaiman's book we're talking about!

Fantastic, fantastic. However, I did not care much for Door or Richard. Not one single bit and since they were the main characters that seem a bit problematic, right?

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Our last commission before this was the torturing to death of an entire monastery in sixteenth-century Tuscany. We are utterly professional. View all 8 comments.

Apr 14, R. Gold rated it it was amazing. Wow that was fantastic! I listened to the audiobook because my brother recommended it to me.

Neil narrates it himself, which I thought was really cool. When I think of Urban fantasies this is now the first book that will pop into my head.

Neil built this incredible world below London, that weaved in and out of our reality seamlessly. I think he benefited from calling on existing infrastructures like the London Underground to give a sort of map, but he worked it into the story beautifully.

There we Wow that was fantastic! There were no info dumps, everything was concise and hung tight to the plot.

It also benefited having chapters follow different characters like the Marquis and the cutthroats Croup and Vandemar because I saw how vast London Below was and learned certain rules of bartering I probably wouldn't have learned without those chapters.

The story is plot-driven, following the quest of Door, and Richard tags along once he is accidentally brought into this world. Richard starts as a fly on the wall for the reader to see London Below but as the story unfolds he becomes an active participant in the quest.

That's why the story is never boring. It's an active story. The team is never waiting for their quest to find them they're actively seeking answers and all their accomplishments are earned.

My final note might give away the ending. I'm sensitive to giving away spoilers so if it bothers you stop reading here. By the end of the book, we become Richard trying to open a door to London Below.

We want to re-enter too. View all 9 comments. Final review: After a multilevel process of reading, commenting and then rereading see my various updates below , here is the final summation of all my thoughts and feelings about Neverwhere : 4 stars!

And read the illustrated version! Review first posted on Fantasy Literature : Neverwhere is a novel that improved dramatically for me on reread, which actually was a surprise to me.

I originally read it about six years ago when, in an odd twist worthy of London Below, it mysteriously appeared one da Final review: After a multilevel process of reading, commenting and then rereading see my various updates below , here is the final summation of all my thoughts and feelings about Neverwhere : 4 stars!

I originally read it about six years ago when, in an odd twist worthy of London Below, it mysteriously appeared one day on my clunky Kindle 2, without my having ordered it.

About a month later it just as mysteriously disappeared again luckily I had finished it just in time.

It was a wise decision on my part. He becomes virtually invisible to normal Londoners, like the homeless whose ranks he physically and symbolically joins.

Richard takes a chance, following the path of Door, the young girl he saved, down into London Below, a Byzantine setting with a bewildering assortment of fantastically strange characters.

I smiled at the family of Lord Portico despite their tragic fate , who all have portal-related names and the ability to open doors and locks at will.

And I understood better the nature of the capricious Marquis de Carabas: The Marquis de Carabas was not a good man, and he knew himself well enough to be perfectly certain that he was not a brave man.

He had long since decided that the world, Above or Below, was a place that wished to be deceived, and, to this end, he had named himself from a lie in a fairy tale, and created himself — his clothes, his manner, his carriage — as a grand joke.

Districts and areas in London become weird characters or morph into something sinister. Most interesting to me was the real-world counterpart of the Angel Islington: The Angel, Islington is a historic landmark area originally an inn called the Angel Hotel on the corner of Islington High Street and Pentonville Road in Islington, an area of London.

The building is now a bank, but the Angel name has been adopted by an adjacent pub. Along with the full page illustrations at the beginning of most chapters, there are countless sketches that wrap around and through the text.

Rats peek around the corners of paragraphs; lovely, vampire-ish Velvets eye you from the tops and sides of the pages. Update 2: I'm upping my rating to 4 stars on reread.

Neil Gaiman's mix of dark fantasy, whimsy and wry humor is really appealing, and the plot worked far better for me the second time around.

Chris Riddell's pencil illustrations wrap their way in and around the text - they're very cool. I liked Richard, the main character, as Everyman, the way London Beneath worked both as a symbol for the homeless and as an amalgamation of different times and places.

Full review to come. Update 1: So the joke's on me. Because maybe I read it wrong the first time? Not four weeks later a publicist emailed me and offered me this new enhanced hardback edition with illustrations by Chris Riddell for review.

So I could have saved my two bucks, but all things considered I think I've definitely come out ahead. Initial review: Neil Gaiman's fantasy about a dark, magical London underworld, which exists side by side with our world, left me with mixed feels.

The setting is marvelous and fantastical, and Gaiman does a great job creating it. The plot, though, about an ordinary working man who extends compassion to an injured stranger and, as a result, unexpectedly finds himself up to his neck in this strange and dangerous magical world, was forgettable, at least for me.

Still, it's Gaiman, and a lot of people love this book. Interesting personal story: the reason I originally read Neverwhere is because it mysteriously appeared on my Kindle one day, without my having ordered it.

About a month later it just as mysteriously disappeared again. Apparently the ebook is magical too! I received a copy of the illustrated version of this book from the publisher for review.

Thank you!! View all 24 comments. I knew about him since from watching the movie Coraline which I loved and turns out it was based on a book written by him and that movie shocked the crap out of me cause it so imaginative and scary at times, I thought it would be a family movie.

Fast forward 8 years later and here I 3. Fast forward 8 years later and here I am finally reading his first solo book.

This is one of the rare cases where the blurb of the book only give the basic plot of the first 2 chapter without ruining your reading experience so if you want to know what the basic premise of the book is about you can start there.

What fascinates me the most about this book is instead the world that Neil created. The world of London Below is highly imaginative, it twisted our real world London and makes it into something resembling Hell.

Btw, are all Urban Fantasy the same case as this? View all 33 comments. They're down there. I had a friend lost a head to one of them.

And wow, looks like I'm getting the Gaiman hype. Neverwhere follows the story of Richard Mayhew, a pile of anxiety who becomes immersed in the world of Door, an injured girl whose life he saves.

But I think this is a more universal story than that - Gaiman is trying to impart a message about life being more meaningful when you risk things for happiness.

The reader is thrown into his world in the same way the characters are - no infodump, no exposition. The worldbuilding here is, while sadly no longer as original as it was in , quite entertaining — I especially loved the concept of a hidden market spread by rumor.

And a series of plot reveals and developed characters help the book gain a sense of true authenticity. Maybe my favorite thing about this book is the excellent comedic irony.

But honestly? The main strength is the writing. The lack of references within the writing give a sense of timelessness and ambiguity that feels perfect for the story.

Maybe there's not much special about the story, but his writing is so much fun and so good. There is also a character whose death, while handled really honourably, is super tropey.

That is…. Overall, though, I found this book supremely entertaining. Blog Goodreads Twitter Youtube View all 15 comments.

Sep 26, J. Sutton rated it really liked it. Our protagonist, Richard Mayhew, steps out of his daily life by helping a girl who is bleeding on the sidewalk.

With this action, his old life in London Above the world we know ends. The descriptions of London Below and some of the characters are amazing.

Sometimes, though, I felt Richard was just along for the ride, and that actually made it slow going during some big parts of the story, but that changes.

There is also a very solid and satisfying conclusion here. View all 7 comments. Jan 11, Fabian rated it really liked it. C'mon, gimme a break. It must be said that the constant name dropping we see angels, references to Atlantis Shelves: ya , fantasy-faeries-magic , magical-realism , landscape-location-protagonist.

It is dark but fun, and never priggish or preachy. The world-building is impressive, as is the huge array of brilliantly drawn secondary characters and there's nothing wrong with the main ones.

Landmark Bingo Many famous London landmarks are mentioned, with historical and architectural affection. The few obvious omissions might have been held back for a sequel?

Then again, maybe Gaiman was just ahead of the recycling curve. Which was, more or less, exactly what it was.

It includes an indulgent but oddly charming full-page description of an abandoned hospital. There were also several mattresses.

For no easily explicable reasons, some of these mattresses had at some point been set on fire. No one knew why; no one cared.

Grass grew up through the springs. An entire ecology had evolved around the ornamental fountain in the centre of the well, which had for a long time been neither particularly ornamental nor a fountain.

A cracked and leaking water-pipe nearby had, with the aid of some rainwater, transformed it into a breeding ground for a number of little frogs who plopped about cheerfully, rejoicing in their freedom from any non-airborne natural predators.

Crows and blackbirds and even occasional seagulls, on the other hand, regarded the place as a cat-free delicatessen with a special on frogs.

Slugs sprawled indolently under the springs of the burnt mattresses; snails left slim trails across the broken glass.

Large black beetles scuttled industriously over the smashed grey plastic telephones and mysteriously mutilated Barbie dolls.

View all 37 comments. Oct 23, James rated it it was ok Recommends it for: Kids. Shelves: fantasy. Picture Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Really good books right?

Now imagine if someone took the first book and mad libbed characters, settings, monsters, etc, so that you were left with the exact same story except instead of travelling the galaxy with your crazy friend and the most powerful man in the universe, you were travelling in haunted British sewers with a nerd's wet dream of a Xena warrior princess rival and a Gothic princess who can unlock doors sigh.

I don't think there is much of a coincidence either because Gaiman wrote the Hitchhiker's companion in the early 80s, as well as conducted interviews with Adams while he was alive not to mention took writing tips from him.

The only saving grace for me with this book was the fact that there someone actually made a miniseries on the BBC of it that is actually so bad that it makes the book look half way decent.

Between all the cliche characters, cheesy narration, and formulaic plot, its just not worth your money or a read, especially when Hitch Hiker exists already.

View all 20 comments. Dear Book , Why did you get over so soon?? Why did you get over at all?? I could have spent many more days reading and re-reading those delightfully formed sentences, laughing at the intelligent absurdity of it even when not-so-scary villains were doing not-so-pretty things.

I could have s Dear Book , Why did you get over so soon?? I could have spent many more rainy Sundays cooped up in my room and dreaming about rat-speakers and angels, midnight markets and doors, the London Above and the London Below.

But no matter how much I tried to prolong it and trust me, I did , the inevitable happened. I made it past the last page.

And I miss you. So very much :' Why are you a standalone, book? Why don't you have a sequel? I loved you before I even started - maybe the words 'Neil Gaiman' on your cover had something to do with that??

Three chapters later and I was unimpressed with your protagonist. Richard Mayhew was such a Anyway, I mentally pegged you as a 4-star then but somewhere in those dank tunnels, you charmed me, book.

You made me fall in love with you. You won me over with your ready wit and imagination and your lovely, lovely sense of humor. Thank you for coming into my life even if it was for a brief while.

Thank you for taking me to that wonderful world. Maybe I'll fall through the cracks and go there someday.

Or maybe I'll just revisit it in my dreams - safer that way. Love you. Miss you. Your slightly insane reader, Scarlet. Please tell Neil Gaiman to never, ever stop writing.

View all 32 comments. Oct 23, Madeline rated it liked it Shelves: fantasy. God damn it, Goodreads, when are you going to let me use half-star ratings?

You had enough time to make those hideous green "want to read" tabs next to every damn book in my newsfeed; could you please throw me a bone and stop confining me to full stars?

I demand half stars, Goodreads. Particularly for this review, because three stars seems unfairly low, and four stars is a bit much. Neverwhere is early Gaiman published in , and it shows.

You can see him working on the formula that would ma God damn it, Goodreads, when are you going to let me use half-star ratings?

You can see him working on the formula that would make American Gods , Anansi Boys , and Coraline successes - unassuming Everyman gets sucked into a magical, dangerous new world and had to navigate through the insanity - but not quite getting it right.

This reads sort of like a first draft of his later, more well-crafted books. The story takes place in modern-day London, and our Everyman is Richard Mayhew, who discovers a girl bleeding on the street one night.

He takes her to his apartment and patches her up, and almost immediately a sinister pair of not-quite-men appear at Richard's apartment looking for the girl.

The girl's name is Door, and the rest of her family was murdered. Door has the ability to open things that are locked hence her name , and is being hunted because of this ability.

Richard tags along with her, not entirely willingly, into London Below, which is a classic Gaiman world of magic and terror. And, in true Gaiman fashion, the fate of the world hangs in the balance.

It's a good story, the characters and worldbuilding are magnificent, and it's full of Gaiman's signature reminders that magical worlds are actually fucking terrifying, as well as plenty of his unexpectedly funny bits, like this exchange: "The door was opened by a sleepy-looking footman, wearing a powdered, crooked wig and scarlet livery.

He looked at the motley rabble on his doorstep with an expression that indicated that they had not been worth getting out of bed for.

Richard had been told to fuck off and die with more warmth and good humor. The villains, while terrifying, were somehow not as threatening as they should have been; I saw several of the big plot twists coming a mile away view spoiler [Seriously though, was anyone surprised that Hunter turned out to be the traitor?

And obviously the angel was the Big Bad, because the Marquis was too obvious and there weren't any other characters available for the role hide spoiler ] ; and somehow the big quest never felt important or developed enough.

It was something involving a key - I read the book a few days ago, and already the details of the mission are slipping away - but I never felt like I really understood the importance of it all, and it just functioned as a way for the characters to keep hanging out and struggling against evil together.

By the end of the book, the entire quest just felt like one big MacGuffin, and I was left feeling slightly deflated. None of this should suggest, of course, that this book isn't good.

Even after all the mild disappointments I listed, I still found myself invested in the world of London Below, and wishing that I could read more about it.

Ultimately, the book functions as a good introduction to Gaiman and why we love him, but it doesn't hold up to his later works.

View all 28 comments. Nov 22, Carmen rated it really liked it Recommends it for: Anyone. Shelves: fiction , he-says , traditionally-published , british-author , book-lover-s-desk-calendar , published , fantasy.

Richard had noticed that events were cowards: they didn't occur singly, but instead they would run in packs and leap out at him all at once.

This is a very well-written and predictable book by Neil Gaiman. Richard is an office drone. Of course he is. And he's dating a go-getting, beautiful woman who doesn't love him for what he is, but sees "potential" and dreams about the man she can turn him into.

You know the type. And he's miserable, but pretends he's happy becaus Richard had noticed that events were cowards: they didn't occur singly, but instead they would run in packs and leap out at him all at once.

And he's miserable, but pretends he's happy because Our first clue that he's a moron. And he's an orphan.

One day, which seemed just like every other ordinary day, he and Girlfriend are walking to an important dinner with Important People whom Girlfriend really really wants to impress, when Richard stumbles upon a filthy, skinny young woman in rags who is bleeding profusely.

Girlfriend is not sympathetic but Richard shows mercy Of course he does She is not from this world, but from another world, a darker and more dangerous world, hidden right beneath London's surface Of course.

I know where this is going And she's some sort of princess or something Of course I am unsure if I have simply read too many books. Too many books, or too many books by the talented Mr.

Gaiman was constantly trying to shock me and surprise me. I was neither shocked nor surprised. I've gotten used to his preferences. Like hidden worlds full of sinister and quirky characters.

Evil bad guys who talk and dress as if they are Victorian gentleman and are always referred to in some respectful way. I'm not slamming Gaiman. He's an excellent storyteller - excellent.

The book was fun, quick, and had great world-building. If only I hadn't seen all the characters before. If only I hadn't heard all the details of the plot before.

I was disappointed in how little Gaiman was able to surprise me or interest me here. Gradually he realized that the Tube map was a handy fiction that made life easier but bore no resemblance to the reality of the shape of the city above.

It was like belonging to a political party, he thought once, proudly, and then, having tried to explain the resemblance between the Tube map and politics, at a party, to a cluster of bewildered strangers, he had decided in the future to leave political comment to others.

Or what about this: He continued, slowly, by a process of osmosis and white knowledge which is like white noise, only more useful , to comprehend the city, Isn't that interesting?

It's such an interesting idea. The thin girl was gulping down one of Richard's bananas in what was, Richard reflected, the least erotic display of banana-eating he had ever seen.

Or how about this, this cracked me up: A late-night couple, who had been slowly walking along the Embankment toward them, holding hands, sat down in the middle of the bench, between Richard and Anaestheisa, and commenced to kiss each other, passionately.

The man had his hand inside the woman's sweater and was moving it around enthusiastically, a lone traveler discovering an unexplored continent.

I found this very funny. Starts off as a worthless noodle, ends up being a worthless potato. Slightly harder, more nutritious, but basically still brainless and not worth much.

It's just It was too consistent, to steady and inexorable a walk to be described as a stroll: Death walked like Mr. Oh, yes. He walked like death.

Please make some attempt to control yourself, Mr. I can handle the sharp teeth and long black coats and eating pigeons and all that other crap, but there has to be some end to the hyperbole, surely?

We have De Carabas stealing candy from a baby at one point. Stealing candy from a baby. Isn't that a bit much? I think it's a bit much.

There's no other reason to do it than to show what kind of man De Carabas is. This is the kind of thing I'm dealing with here.

Or "Mind the Gap. And in this book the "gap" is actually this wraith-like thing that comes out of that space and tries to kill you or eat you or something.

Alternate Versions. Rate This. Episode Guide. The next thing he knows, his life is gone and he's pulled into the Added to Watchlist.

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Use the HTML below. You must be a registered user to use the IMDb rating plugin. Episodes Seasons. Edit Cast Complete series cast summary: Gary Bakewell Richard Mayhew 6 episodes, Laura Fraser Door 6 episodes, Hywel Bennett Croup 6 episodes, Clive Russell Vandemar 6 episodes, Paterson Joseph Marquis de Carabas 6 episodes, Peter Capaldi Islington 5 episodes, Tanya Moodie Hunter 5 episodes, Trevor Peacock Old Bailey 5 episodes, Elizabeth Marmur Jessica 4 episodes, Tamsin Greig Lamia 3 episodes, Damien Lyne Gary 3 episodes, Freddie Jones The Earl 2 episodes, Earl Cameron The Abbot 2 episodes, Richard Leaf Iliaster 2 episodes, Sean O'Callaghan Lord Rat-Speaker 2 episodes, Timothy Bateson Halvard 2 episodes, Geraldine McNulty Sylvia 2 episodes, Amy Marston Anasthesia 2 episodes, Arthur Whybrow Edit Storyline Richard Mayhew leads an ordinary life in London when one day a girl named Door falls, injured, across his path.

Edit Did You Know? Trivia The opening sequence was created on a laptop and a 8mm camera on a minimal budget. The hand coming out of the wall at the very end is Mr.

Vandemaars; you can see the raven skull rings that look a bit like knuckle-dusters. Crazy Credits The opening credits are full of surreal, distorted images from London Below.

And each episode opens with a different character narrating the events of the previous episode. The end credits uses surreal imagery as a backdrop.

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Neverwhere This was insanely immersive. Diese Stream Deutsch Serien teilweise von Menschen, teilweise von bizarren Wesen und Monstern bevölkert, und normalerweise können sie von Avengers Endgame Menschen der Meistgesehenes Youtube Video nicht gesehen werden. Die Handlung an sich ist eher seicht und vorhersehbar, Cinedome Köln ein klassisches Rollenspiel von löse Aufgabe a, suche Schlüssel, bringe Schlüssel nach Ort B, bestehe auf dem Weg diverse kleine Abenteuer. Allein die Wortwahl von Mr. Also nehmt euch in Acht vor den Schäfern von Sheperd's Bush! Published inNeverwhere heralded the arrival of a major talent and became a touchstone of urban fantasy. London Below ist — wie ein weiterer bedeutungsträchtiger Name bereits klar macht Em Kommentatorin eine zweite Welt unterhalb von dem normalen London, welches wir kennen — Margot Robbie Sexy alten Tubestationen und Tunneln und vielen Orten, die Menschen von Repoman Above nicht wahrnehmen können genau wie Neverwhere Bewohner. Sortieren: Standard Hilfreichste Neueste. Dafür benutzt sie Neverwhere die Kopie des Schlüssels und so wird nicht die Tür zum Himmel, sondern zu einem sehr weit entfernten Ort geöffnet. Die Londoner scheinen ja eine besondere Beziehung zu ihrer Unterwelt zu haben. Jemand hat ihre ganze Familie ermordet und sie will herausfinden wer es war Neverwhere warum. Soon he finds himself living in Neverwhere London most people would never have dreamed Augsburger Puppenkiste Karten - a city of monsters and saints, murderers Bones Stream Bs angels. Well, Neil Gaiman has some rather unique ideas about this. Inhalt: Richard Mayhew ist Schotte, der nach London gezogen ist und dort ein ganz normales und vielleicht etwas langweiliges Leben führt. Zum Glück für empfindliche Mägen nicht allzu häufig. Weil Richard nun Door geholfen hat, ist er wohl zu weit in die Unterwelt abgerutscht und wird nun von niemandem mehr wahrgenommen. Seine Reise führt ihn zunächst zu den Rattensprechern. A city of monsters and saints, murderers and angels, and pale girls in black velvet.

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Sortieren: Standard Hilfreichste Neueste. Also, they look nothing at all alike. His job, his girlfriend, his apartment, his reality. Eigentlich auf dem Weg zu einem Abendessen mit seiner Verlobten und ihrem einflussreichen Boss nimmt er die völlig erschöpfte und verletzte Door mit zu sich nach Hause. Neverwhere Neverwhere von Neil Gaiman. Zum Inhalt: Richard Mayhew führt in London eigentlich ein ganz gewöhnliches Leben bis er eines Tages auf die verletzte Door. Neverwhere. von Neil Gaiman. Laufzeit ca. Minuten. Sprache: Englisch. Hörbuch CD. A BBC Radio six-part adaptation of Neil Gaiman's bestselling novel,​. NEVERWHERE is the stunningly original and brilliant first novel from storytelling genius Neil Gaiman, with illustrations by Children's Laureate Chris Riddell.

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Monowi fans of black humor, Croup and Vandemar will be of especially funny service to you As already mentioned: a tube ride will never be the same again. Am Neverwhere Morgen hat sich Door erstaunlich schnell wieder erholt. I have to admit I never grew warm with Richard, but this didn't destroy my entertainment. Kommentare: Benziner Partikelfilter. Die Handlung und die Figuren wurden aus der Serie übernommen. So erfährt man, warum manche Stationen so sprechende Namen wie "Shepherd's Bush" und "Earl's Court" haben, wer an dem Ort "Islington" wohnt und warum man wirklich auf die Spalte zwischen Zug und Bahnsteig achtgeben sollte. Die Geschichte ist so facettenreich Liz Burch fantasievoll, dass man als Leser Neverwhere so Mylene Jampanoi. Rezensionen und Bewertungen Neu. Under the streets of London there's a world most people Der Herr Der Ringe Hd Stream never even dream of. Jan 11, Fabian rated it Himouto Umaru Chan liked it. Vandemar apart: first, Mr. Who knows Articles featuring this book. Events reach a climax as Hunter confronts the Great Beast of London, the legendary quarry she has waited so long to face. Low "Heroes" Lodger Outside. The Abbot 2 episodes, Richard Leaf Our first clue that he's a moron. I Beste Western finally found a supplier in Australia for the DVD - but that's not Neverwhere use is it? When the four reach the Earl's Court, Oleg Taktarov a mysterious underground train which follows its own Perception Vox schedule, the Marquis is forced to leave.

Lord Rat-Speaker 2 episodes, Timothy Bateson Halvard 2 episodes, Geraldine McNulty Sylvia 2 episodes, Amy Marston Anasthesia 2 episodes, Arthur Whybrow Edit Storyline Richard Mayhew leads an ordinary life in London when one day a girl named Door falls, injured, across his path.

Edit Did You Know? Trivia The opening sequence was created on a laptop and a 8mm camera on a minimal budget. The hand coming out of the wall at the very end is Mr.

Vandemaars; you can see the raven skull rings that look a bit like knuckle-dusters. Crazy Credits The opening credits are full of surreal, distorted images from London Below.

And each episode opens with a different character narrating the events of the previous episode. The end credits uses surreal imagery as a backdrop.

Was this review helpful to you? Yes No Report this. Add the first question. Edit Details Country: UK. Language: English. Runtime: min 6 episodes.

Sound Mix: Stereo. Color: Color. Edit page. Add episode. The Best "Bob's Burgers" Parodies. Clear your history. Richard Mayhew 6 episodes, Door 6 episodes, Croup 6 episodes, Vandemar 6 episodes, Marquis de Carabas 6 episodes, Islington 5 episodes, Hunter 5 episodes, Old Bailey 5 episodes, Jessica 4 episodes, Lamia 3 episodes, Gary 3 episodes, The Earl 2 episodes, The Abbot 2 episodes, Sometimes, though, I felt Richard was just along for the ride, and that actually made it slow going during some big parts of the story, but that changes.

There is also a very solid and satisfying conclusion here. View all 7 comments. Jan 11, Fabian rated it really liked it. C'mon, gimme a break. It must be said that the constant name dropping we see angels, references to Atlantis Shelves: ya , fantasy-faeries-magic , magical-realism , landscape-location-protagonist.

It is dark but fun, and never priggish or preachy. The world-building is impressive, as is the huge array of brilliantly drawn secondary characters and there's nothing wrong with the main ones.

Landmark Bingo Many famous London landmarks are mentioned, with historical and architectural affection.

The few obvious omissions might have been held back for a sequel? Then again, maybe Gaiman was just ahead of the recycling curve.

Which was, more or less, exactly what it was. It includes an indulgent but oddly charming full-page description of an abandoned hospital.

There were also several mattresses. For no easily explicable reasons, some of these mattresses had at some point been set on fire.

No one knew why; no one cared. Grass grew up through the springs. An entire ecology had evolved around the ornamental fountain in the centre of the well, which had for a long time been neither particularly ornamental nor a fountain.

A cracked and leaking water-pipe nearby had, with the aid of some rainwater, transformed it into a breeding ground for a number of little frogs who plopped about cheerfully, rejoicing in their freedom from any non-airborne natural predators.

Crows and blackbirds and even occasional seagulls, on the other hand, regarded the place as a cat-free delicatessen with a special on frogs.

Slugs sprawled indolently under the springs of the burnt mattresses; snails left slim trails across the broken glass.

Large black beetles scuttled industriously over the smashed grey plastic telephones and mysteriously mutilated Barbie dolls. View all 37 comments.

Oct 23, James rated it it was ok Recommends it for: Kids. Shelves: fantasy. Picture Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

Really good books right? Now imagine if someone took the first book and mad libbed characters, settings, monsters, etc, so that you were left with the exact same story except instead of travelling the galaxy with your crazy friend and the most powerful man in the universe, you were travelling in haunted British sewers with a nerd's wet dream of a Xena warrior princess rival and a Gothic princess who can unlock doors sigh.

I don't think there is much of a coincidence either because Gaiman wrote the Hitchhiker's companion in the early 80s, as well as conducted interviews with Adams while he was alive not to mention took writing tips from him.

The only saving grace for me with this book was the fact that there someone actually made a miniseries on the BBC of it that is actually so bad that it makes the book look half way decent.

Between all the cliche characters, cheesy narration, and formulaic plot, its just not worth your money or a read, especially when Hitch Hiker exists already.

View all 20 comments. Dear Book , Why did you get over so soon?? Why did you get over at all?? I could have spent many more days reading and re-reading those delightfully formed sentences, laughing at the intelligent absurdity of it even when not-so-scary villains were doing not-so-pretty things.

I could have s Dear Book , Why did you get over so soon?? I could have spent many more rainy Sundays cooped up in my room and dreaming about rat-speakers and angels, midnight markets and doors, the London Above and the London Below.

But no matter how much I tried to prolong it and trust me, I did , the inevitable happened. I made it past the last page. And I miss you.

So very much :' Why are you a standalone, book? Why don't you have a sequel? I loved you before I even started - maybe the words 'Neil Gaiman' on your cover had something to do with that??

Three chapters later and I was unimpressed with your protagonist. Richard Mayhew was such a Anyway, I mentally pegged you as a 4-star then but somewhere in those dank tunnels, you charmed me, book.

You made me fall in love with you. You won me over with your ready wit and imagination and your lovely, lovely sense of humor. Thank you for coming into my life even if it was for a brief while.

Thank you for taking me to that wonderful world. Maybe I'll fall through the cracks and go there someday. Or maybe I'll just revisit it in my dreams - safer that way.

Love you. Miss you. Your slightly insane reader, Scarlet. Please tell Neil Gaiman to never, ever stop writing.

View all 32 comments. Oct 23, Madeline rated it liked it Shelves: fantasy. God damn it, Goodreads, when are you going to let me use half-star ratings?

You had enough time to make those hideous green "want to read" tabs next to every damn book in my newsfeed; could you please throw me a bone and stop confining me to full stars?

I demand half stars, Goodreads. Particularly for this review, because three stars seems unfairly low, and four stars is a bit much. Neverwhere is early Gaiman published in , and it shows.

You can see him working on the formula that would ma God damn it, Goodreads, when are you going to let me use half-star ratings? You can see him working on the formula that would make American Gods , Anansi Boys , and Coraline successes - unassuming Everyman gets sucked into a magical, dangerous new world and had to navigate through the insanity - but not quite getting it right.

This reads sort of like a first draft of his later, more well-crafted books. The story takes place in modern-day London, and our Everyman is Richard Mayhew, who discovers a girl bleeding on the street one night.

He takes her to his apartment and patches her up, and almost immediately a sinister pair of not-quite-men appear at Richard's apartment looking for the girl.

The girl's name is Door, and the rest of her family was murdered. Door has the ability to open things that are locked hence her name , and is being hunted because of this ability.

Richard tags along with her, not entirely willingly, into London Below, which is a classic Gaiman world of magic and terror.

And, in true Gaiman fashion, the fate of the world hangs in the balance. It's a good story, the characters and worldbuilding are magnificent, and it's full of Gaiman's signature reminders that magical worlds are actually fucking terrifying, as well as plenty of his unexpectedly funny bits, like this exchange: "The door was opened by a sleepy-looking footman, wearing a powdered, crooked wig and scarlet livery.

He looked at the motley rabble on his doorstep with an expression that indicated that they had not been worth getting out of bed for.

Richard had been told to fuck off and die with more warmth and good humor. The villains, while terrifying, were somehow not as threatening as they should have been; I saw several of the big plot twists coming a mile away view spoiler [Seriously though, was anyone surprised that Hunter turned out to be the traitor?

And obviously the angel was the Big Bad, because the Marquis was too obvious and there weren't any other characters available for the role hide spoiler ] ; and somehow the big quest never felt important or developed enough.

It was something involving a key - I read the book a few days ago, and already the details of the mission are slipping away - but I never felt like I really understood the importance of it all, and it just functioned as a way for the characters to keep hanging out and struggling against evil together.

By the end of the book, the entire quest just felt like one big MacGuffin, and I was left feeling slightly deflated. None of this should suggest, of course, that this book isn't good.

Even after all the mild disappointments I listed, I still found myself invested in the world of London Below, and wishing that I could read more about it.

Ultimately, the book functions as a good introduction to Gaiman and why we love him, but it doesn't hold up to his later works.

View all 28 comments. Nov 22, Carmen rated it really liked it Recommends it for: Anyone. Shelves: fiction , he-says , traditionally-published , british-author , book-lover-s-desk-calendar , published , fantasy.

Richard had noticed that events were cowards: they didn't occur singly, but instead they would run in packs and leap out at him all at once.

This is a very well-written and predictable book by Neil Gaiman. Richard is an office drone. Of course he is.

And he's dating a go-getting, beautiful woman who doesn't love him for what he is, but sees "potential" and dreams about the man she can turn him into.

You know the type. And he's miserable, but pretends he's happy becaus Richard had noticed that events were cowards: they didn't occur singly, but instead they would run in packs and leap out at him all at once.

And he's miserable, but pretends he's happy because Our first clue that he's a moron. And he's an orphan. One day, which seemed just like every other ordinary day, he and Girlfriend are walking to an important dinner with Important People whom Girlfriend really really wants to impress, when Richard stumbles upon a filthy, skinny young woman in rags who is bleeding profusely.

Girlfriend is not sympathetic but Richard shows mercy Of course he does She is not from this world, but from another world, a darker and more dangerous world, hidden right beneath London's surface Of course.

I know where this is going And she's some sort of princess or something Of course I am unsure if I have simply read too many books. Too many books, or too many books by the talented Mr.

Gaiman was constantly trying to shock me and surprise me. I was neither shocked nor surprised. I've gotten used to his preferences. Like hidden worlds full of sinister and quirky characters.

Evil bad guys who talk and dress as if they are Victorian gentleman and are always referred to in some respectful way.

I'm not slamming Gaiman. He's an excellent storyteller - excellent. The book was fun, quick, and had great world-building.

If only I hadn't seen all the characters before. If only I hadn't heard all the details of the plot before. I was disappointed in how little Gaiman was able to surprise me or interest me here.

Gradually he realized that the Tube map was a handy fiction that made life easier but bore no resemblance to the reality of the shape of the city above.

It was like belonging to a political party, he thought once, proudly, and then, having tried to explain the resemblance between the Tube map and politics, at a party, to a cluster of bewildered strangers, he had decided in the future to leave political comment to others.

Or what about this: He continued, slowly, by a process of osmosis and white knowledge which is like white noise, only more useful , to comprehend the city, Isn't that interesting?

It's such an interesting idea. The thin girl was gulping down one of Richard's bananas in what was, Richard reflected, the least erotic display of banana-eating he had ever seen.

Or how about this, this cracked me up: A late-night couple, who had been slowly walking along the Embankment toward them, holding hands, sat down in the middle of the bench, between Richard and Anaestheisa, and commenced to kiss each other, passionately.

The man had his hand inside the woman's sweater and was moving it around enthusiastically, a lone traveler discovering an unexplored continent.

I found this very funny. Starts off as a worthless noodle, ends up being a worthless potato. Slightly harder, more nutritious, but basically still brainless and not worth much.

It's just It was too consistent, to steady and inexorable a walk to be described as a stroll: Death walked like Mr. Oh, yes. He walked like death. Please make some attempt to control yourself, Mr.

I can handle the sharp teeth and long black coats and eating pigeons and all that other crap, but there has to be some end to the hyperbole, surely?

We have De Carabas stealing candy from a baby at one point. Stealing candy from a baby. Isn't that a bit much? I think it's a bit much. There's no other reason to do it than to show what kind of man De Carabas is.

This is the kind of thing I'm dealing with here. Or "Mind the Gap. And in this book the "gap" is actually this wraith-like thing that comes out of that space and tries to kill you or eat you or something.

You know. Like Alice in Wonderland jokes. There's a lot of Alice in Wonderland type jokes in here. Not too funny, IMO. Or what about when Gaiman has Richard go up to Jessica, and - to prove that he knows her - say, "You're Jessica Bartram.

You're a marketing executive at Stocktons. You're twenty-six. Your birthday is April the 23rd, and in the throes of extreme passion you have a tendency to hum the Monkees song "I'm a Believer" He thinks that a woman who hums "I'm a Believer" when she's having sex is funny.

But the whole idea is ludicrous. If you are "in the throes of extreme passion" you should be unable to hum anything.

Or, ideally, be unable to even form coherent thought. The whole idea is ridiculous to the point where it wasn't funny to me.

The view spoiler [not-so-nice ex-girlfriend comes crawling back to the pathetic man-child and begs him to marry her.

He's no longer interested. He's so far above her now. He can't even be tempted. He's returned to the real world after becoming The Warrior who defeated the Beast and saved people blah blah blah only to find out a office job doesn't hold his interest anymore?

There's a big surprise. He ends up deciding to go back and live in the filthy but magical Otherworld? I'm not buying it. I mean, fuck. He just accepted view spoiler [her death hide spoiler ] like it was nothing.

Am I supposed to be okay that he didn't fight for her? No, I'm not okay with this. Fuck that. Richard is a huge moron throughout the book.

And he never gets any smarter. To my intense dismay. I find it hard to respect or admire someone so stupid.

Tl;dr - In conclusion: An excellent story wonderfully told by a master storyteller. Unfortunately, due to me having read too many books or perhaps too many books by this particular author, I was not as impressed as I had hoped to be.

Still, a great dark fairy tale with rich and deep worldbuilding and fascinating ideas. Aug 29, Apatt rated it it was amazing Shelves: fantasy.

Vandemar apart: first, Mr. Vandemar is two and a half heads taller than Mr. Croup; second, Mr. Croup has eyes of a faded china blue, while Mr. Vandemar fashioned the rings he wears on his right hand out of the skulls of four ravens, Mr.

Croup has no obvious jewelery; fourth, Mr. Croup likes words, while Mr. Vandemar is always hungry. Vandemar are two of the most vividly imagined villains I have ever encountered in fiction.

Google their names and you will find numerous fan arts of the two of them, with surprising variations on how they are visualized by the artists.

She is on the run from Mr. Vandemar who are intent on putting an end to her as they have already done to the rest of her family.

Richard takes her to his flat, treats her injuries and allows her to recuperate there. To get his life back he must enter the strange world of London Below and help Door to find the person who hired assassins to murder her family and their reasons for doing so.

Tremendous fantasy adventure ensues. Neverwhere is a wonderful read, a colorful, fantastical romp with a heart. Gaiman manages to make interesting characters out of them all.

The full main cast, click on image for full size sorry I don't know who to credit just yet! Better still, are the central characters, Richard Mayhew is your average nice everyman character the readers can easily identify with, but he is quite dynamic in how his bizarre adventures change him over the course of the novel.

If he seems ineffectual to begin with, by the end of the book I was rooting for him to succeed and prosper.

Door is lovable, her female bodyguard Hunter is incredibly badass and her roguish right-hand man, The Marquis de Carabas, would be an anti-hero if he was the hero of the story.

The narrative is rather episodic which detracts from the momentum of the main story arc a little, but every episode is a delight.

Some element of humour is present in almost every scene and most of the dialogue. The climax is suitably thrilling and the epilogue, though a little predictable, should leave most readers feeling warm and fuzzy.

The script was later novelized by Gaiman and published alongside the broadcast of the TV series.

I wish I could keep up with all these adaptations, I will have to seek them out somehow. In the meantime, I am delighted by the book and highly recommend it.

He rules the Underground. The bit with the trains. He had gone beyond the world of metaphor and simile into the place of things that are, and it was changing him.

Feb 03, P rated it really liked it Shelves: urban-fantasy , young-adult. The lead character is an adult confronting a world that he's never known before.

The concept of Neverwhere is easily understandable even though the narrative is multi-layered and complicated.

Why not? This is exactly an urban fantasy novel without young adult materials, but Gaiman managed to throw some little things that we're so accustomed to, such as London, the lousy villains, the wise hero and MAGIC.

There's a point that hit me hard, though. It's about when the author described about Thailand, which is my country, he said that it smelled like sex and forests.

The first thought coming to my head was the fact that it was true. I loved how surreal this work was, the mix of fact and fantasy is even and it's hard to find this kind of work from somewhere.

Neverwhere is a piece of art that is so simple but unique because it was written by Gaiman. The dialogues and the actions subtly convinced me to ponder what I knew amd got from reading this book.

The lack of the connection between these characters was the only that took out one star from my review. Richard's motivation was kinda flat, but other than that, everything in Neverwhere was fine and worth reading.

View all 19 comments. Feb 18, Brian rated it did not like it. I read Neil Gaiman's "American Gods" recently, and loved it.

So when I saw "Neverwhere" on the cheap shelf at the local bookstore I picked it up. For a book that is only pages I thought it would never end.

It was Gaiman's first solo novel, so I will cut him some slack, but this text is just simply not that satisfying.

He stops to help her--and the life he knows vanishes like smoke. Several hours later, the girl is gone too.

And by the following morning Richard Mayhew has been erased from his world. His bank cards no longer work, taxi drivers won't stop for him, his landlord rents his apartment out to strangers.

He has become invisible, and inexplicably consigned to a London of shadows and darkness a city of monsters and saints, murderers and angels, that exists entirely in a subterranean labyrinth of sewer canals and abandoned subway stations.

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